I had a super fun talk with Michael Walliser on his “How It Runs” podcast.
We covered a host of topics related to building better places in North Carolina. We focused on the challenges of creating affordable, walkable, and community-oriented housing amid complex zoning codes, financial barriers, and current economic conditions.
Key Themes and Topics:
Housing Market Challenges: I explained how high interest rates have “locked” many homeowners into low-rate mortgages, hindering mobility and exacerbating inventory shortages. I noted that current policies often favor large-scale, suburban, auto-centric development over the “missing middle” housing—such as duplexes and cottage courts—that historically supported vibrant, walkable communities.
The Role of Zoning: A major focus was the impact of restrictive zoning, including large minimum lot sizes, parking requirements, and special permissions. I strongly advised practitioners to “read the damn zoning code,” as mastering these regulations is the first step toward identifying development opportunities that most people miss.
The Missing Middle and ADUs: We discussed the potential of Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs) and pocket neighborhoods to foster connection and community wealth. Despite the benefits, we discussed how these projects face significant hurdles, particularly in financing, because the appraisal industry often undervalues detached accessory structures.
Local vs. Top-Down Reform: While acknowledging that statewide preemptive reform—such as parking or ADU mandates—can help bypass local obstacles, I advocated for “scrappy, incrementalist” approaches native to the South. I remain skeptical of federal-level housing legislation, which I believe often relies on vague “vibes-based” goals that fail to address the underlying mechanical problems in the housing market.
The Importance of Agency and Skill: We touched on the philosophical value of building and maintenance, and I cited Matthew Crawford to argue that there is a loss of human agency when everything is automated or “done for” individuals. I suggested that the trades are becoming increasingly valuable in an era dominated by artificial intelligence.
Future Outlook for Practitioners: I emphasized the “find your farm” strategy for young professionals, encouraging them to specialize in a specific geographic area or housing type to build expertise. I expressed optimism for local, independent builders who focus on intentional, community-oriented pocket neighborhoods to meet the growing public craving for connection.
Listen/Watch the full conversation here 👇
